BONUS: Kindness Makes a Comeback! (Ted Lasso SAG Awards & Season 2 Trailer)

Brett Callan 

Welcome to the crown and anchor greyhounds the Crown and Anchor

Christian 

THE CROWN AND ANCHOR?

Brett Callan 

Well yeah, this is a bonus episode. So we've switched venues. And it's a little different because in our regular episodes, we don't talk about things that happen in future episodes so much. But in our bonus episodes, everything is fair game. So if you haven't finished Season One of Ted last, so on Apple TV plus, pause this episode and go binge, the rest of the show will still be here. When you come back.

Christian 

We most certainly will. And let me just say, we're super grateful for everyone who has been listening. Y'all have been fantastic and supportive, and it really energizes us to keep going.

Marisa 

We do have a special request. If you are on an Apple device, please, please, please head to Apple podcasts and give us a rating in short review. Even if you usually listen to us in a different app. Getting those ratings really helps people find us and is the best way you can help us out short of sponsoring the show. Yes, short of sponsoring the show. Why did you have to say short, Brett, the 32nd rating process is the best way you can help us out.

Brett Callan 

Okay, are we sorted now?

Multiple 

Yep, yes.

Christian 

Well, then let's get this party restarted. rumex bonus episode. Let's wrap up here.

Brett Callan 

Welcome to the crown and anchor greyhounds. This is Richmond till we die a conversation about the Apple TV plus show Ted lasso, where we explore the characters, their relationships to each other, and how they're able to make us laugh until we can hardly breathe one moment and then feel with the deepest parts of our hearts the next. And we are so excited to share our first ever bonus episode. Today. Our conversation is all about the TED lasso sketches that open and close the Screen Actors Guild Awards, as well as that exciting Season Two teaser trailer.

Marisa 

Hi, everyone. I'm Marissa and I'm super confused because I don't understand why this is a bonus episode because you know how I don't really know anything about podcasts. So I just thought this is another episode.

Christian 

I'm Christian. I'm the soccer BBQ guy. I really love smoking meat, which I've learned to enunciate when I introduced myself or else people think I'm a pothead.

Brett Callan 

By the after that laugh What am I supposed to do? And I'm Brad and I don't have anything clever to say but I've been looking on eBay for a decent replica of gene Wilder's ensemble and I still haven't found one.

Marisa 

You look good and purple. Christian. Speaking of amazing ensemble, I have to say you're looking like a highlighter.

Christian 

Thank you. bonus episode storytime. As you can see, you too and nobody on the internet. I am wearing a very rare yellow, Portland Timbers jersey, which we got the Portland Timbers first year in MLS when they made a trip to Kansas City. We're at this match. And the supporter section is this weird mid week game. And we're in the supporter section with the rest of the timbers folks, which for this match was probably like six total people, me, my wife, my friend Coleman and three other people who I don't know anymore. And at some point during the game, which just so happened to be bobblehead night in Kansas City. somebody threw a bobble head and hit the Sporting Kansas City goalkeeper. Everybody looked at us they assume that we did it but in fact, it ended up being a Sporting Kansas City fan who is wearing Kansas State gear can never trust them.

Marisa 

Those terrible people.

Christian 

He got escorted out of the stadium. The timbers lost and at the end of the match Troy parkins, the goalkeeper for the Portland Timbers came over and threw this jersey up into the stands to my wife, but it's so big that she doesn't really fit her so I get to wear it.

Brett Callan 

That's a legit MLS jersey.

Christian 

This is a legit MLS jersey that was worn in a match.

Brett Callan 

Whoa, wow. That's really cool. bonus episode that's like everyone's dream. It is.

Marisa 

I  mean, if you like soccer and you know,

Christian 

you want to sweaty man's jersey to take home? Yes, yes.

Marisa 

Every everyone's dream.

Brett Callan 

Thanks. I mean, Joe. So let's start off by discussing the Screen Actors Guild or SAG Award sketch. I think it makes sense to go in chronological order, right?

Christian 

Correct. So what happened in the sketch and what was the format. The format was very reminiscent of Saturday Night Live. It kind of reminded me of different apartment sketches that have recently in the last few years aired on Saturday Night Live. There was one when Dave Chappelle hosted following the 2016 presidential election where the black people could kind of like see the election coming and the white people couldn't and So different folks would come in, including Chris Rock would come into the apartment. As the night progressed, there was also recently a COVID sketch with Dan levy of people talking about how safe they were being with their COVID protocols, when in fact, everybody had a ton of exceptions. And so it just kind of had that sort of feel. The other thing that was different about it was that it was weird to see this cast directly entering the real world, because they were talking about the Screen Actors Guild Awards, they were making references to the other shows that were nominated. And they were doing a lot more like a media pop culture things. And so it really did feel like an SNL type writers room sketch comedy room had gotten a hold of the material and given it the treatment, and then presented it to us much more so than like the the sitcom feel that it usually has.

Brett Callan 

Yeah, cuz the pace of SNL references are so quick, because that happens every week. Right? But this felt very inception II, because of what you're saying, Christian. And it was kind of like when you are a kid, and you see your teacher in the grocery store, and you're like, you exist other places besides the classroom, like my brain is broken. And, like, like legitly, we they reference like Jason Sudeikis is playing Ted lasso. But then they also directly referenced Jason Sudeikis, the real life person when Jamie enters wearing the hoodie that he wore to accept his Golden Globe Award.

Christian 

It's one of the few examples where crossing the streams works. It still hurts my brain, though.

Marisa 

Crossing the streams is that when you're like paying with your friend, or

Christian 

ghostbusting

Brett Callan 

Yes.

Christian 

I thought one of the cool things about the sketches on its face, it was hilarious. It seemed like you know about 80% of the jokes, anybody could get and laugh out and think we're funny. And then you have the 20% that we're kind of for like the title, so fans, the callbacks and the illusions to stuff that happened in the show. And so I just thought they did a good mix and gave us some stuff to laugh at.

Marisa 

So if you're an elite to lasso fan, you get to laugh at 100% of the jokes.

Christian 

100%

Brett Callan 

A plus.

Marisa 

I was like grade.

Brett Callan 

Well. The other thing about kind of the format and the delivery of this sketch is the way they set it up. It's you know, they're in the locker room, all these characters that we know and love, and it's it feels like a pre match vibe. It's kind of like the pre match hype talk.

Christian 

Everybody's sitting around the big bit in the sketch is riffing on different ensembles, which which ensemble is the Best Ensemble and we kind of entered this pop culture Olympics, which is really hilarious of all of the ensembles which were mentioned and we'll just take out Roy saying the Muppets for a second put that on the shelf. Which one was your favorite that was mentioned?

Marisa 

Well, if you're taking out the Muppets, which is you know, truly the best one and the most we're gonna talk about in a second. Okay. Then my favorite would be when Rashard says the pack of rats. And Ted says, I think you mean the Rat Pack. And Zorro says no, the pack of rats from Ratatouille?

Brett Callan 

Which great ensemble?

Marisa 

I mean, not really though, right?

Brett Callan 

They're not a great ensemble and then eventually at the end of the movie, they come together and they kind of they all end up helping each other out and Rumi has found his purpose in life

Marisa 

I just like the the play the riff on the rap packs

Christian 

and shout out to French Canadians. We have that when they're doing trying to figure out trick plays late in the first season and the Puccini one comes in and

Brett Callan 

It's not dirty. It's just super Canadian. Yeah.

Christian 

Those yummy gravy fries. Bread, what was your favorite man? Oh, man,

Brett Callan 

they're also good. I can't believe I have to choose. But I think the one that caught me the most off guard was maybe the least pop Kultury on its face when Danny says the 11 apostles and the guy next to him says 11 and he says I do not count Judas. That's a great line. But then I also love that right after that Ted has another synchrony says ooh, kancil culture is alive and well, which is very pop culture. So I get both sides of the spectrum there.

Christian 

Those are good. I loved when Nate brought up the UConn women's basketball team. It wasn't the funniest, but it was super on brand for the show. Just kind of bringing in the idea of strong, accomplished women. It was also the funny part in hindsight, was that Nate brings it up, and college basketball just doesn't really register internationally. And so the idea that someone from across the pond has really been following college basketball is a bit out of the blue and it just tickles me to think of Nate staying up late. Catching streams of college basketball on his computer. And as promised, we will bring it back around to the Muppets, which most people think is the funniest bit in the whole thing. And those who don't are just too afraid to argue with Roy about it. And for Brett Goldstein, this is a joke that comes from his heart. He is a huge Muppets fan. If you watch this video podcast, big ol Muppets poster on the back wall. And if you go on YouTube, you'll find that he has a nice little comedic routine. The Muppets Christmas carol in six minutes the man loves him some Muppets.

Brett Callan 

Before we move on, I just want to draw attention to the drink that Rebecca is describing when she describes her favorite ensemble is in fact a peach Cosmo. So when you're having your title, last watch parties for season two, maybe you can make that drink in honor of Rebecca Welton.

Christian 

Is it good with biscuits?

Brett Callan 

I assume everything is good with biscuits. There's several other examples again, just go watch it to get all the good lols

Christian 

there was the silliness. This is a one off sketch. It did feel much more SNL like than sitcom me. But there were some very like classic table. So EQ moments.

Marisa 

Yeah, we get to see Jamie he shows up. And that kind of gives us some interesting looking forward to season two.

Christian 

Yeah, Jamie shows up in this forward space hoodie that Jason Sudeikis wore when he accepted the Golden Globe Award. The idea of him like in that kind of neon tie hood, he just set Twitter aflame that night. And it was interesting, because it was a way to bring Jamie in. And one of the big questions about season two is like, what is going to happen with Jamie Is he back in Manchester City, it doesn't really seem like there's a real clean way to bring him back to AFC Richmond. And so they keep us in suspense, letting us know that he's still around, but we don't know like exactly in what capacity he'll be around in the show itself.

Brett Callan 

That little moment also sets up a great joke between Nate and beard, where Nick says, who wears a hoodie to an award show. And then beard says he's going through some stuff, which feels like a very direct reference to kind of the conversation that was happening around Jason Sudeikis when he in fact did accept this award. And, again, this feels like maybe an appropriate time to bring up this conversation. But you in the wake of sort of Ted last Oh, the season finishing up we all were kind of getting the news that Jason Sudeikis and his partner Olivia Wilde were separated and still are and have kind of both began dating other people and so it just felt true to the show in a way to kind of bring in this emotional heaviness but kind of couch it in a joke that's very self aware. But not that doesn't necessarily play down the hurt or the pain that's really there.

Marisa 

Also, I like that even though they didn't win, you know, we still get to have like Ted LaSalle giving the pep talk of it doesn't matter if you win or lose like we're gonna we're gonna keep going to the next one. So that was very Chad lassa

Christian 

we there are more opportunities in the future though for them to win award season is kind of funny. And the show title so has kind of been getting blocked by the sixth season of shits Creek it's been winning a lot of like the show awards. So Ted lasso has been winning some awards for some of the individual actors and like some new show stuff, but in terms of like Best Overall it's not been winning those however, the Emmys are kind of in the next big award show to come up and shits Creek season six has already won its Emmys so even though we've had a lot of awards that for tech last so feel like a warm up and a build up to the Emmys even in how Apple is kind of treating it and like getting the hype machine rolling. They don't have as big of a mountain and somewhat maybe even say like an insurmountable mountain to overcome to now take home and me.

Multiple 

Emmy Sweep.

Marisa 

I mean, but I feel like Ted would teach us that it's not about the wins and losses.

Christian 

He would I think the cast is teaching us that they are really proud of their work. And that they're kind of like feeling themselves like they are feeling the love that everybody's been giving them they are feeling the awards that they've got. They have a confidence like I think when the show first came out it felt like a plucky upstart and was a little bit off the radar. And as they've developed a fan base, everybody seems to have a lot of fun interacting with fans. Be like kind of fans in the media. They do interviews with. They seem to have a lot of fun doing interviews with each other. And even just like chatting people up or whatever on Instagram and Twitter, which spike, it'll be interesting to see how that sort of just changes the vibe of the show, you know, who felt like they had a super different vibe and the sketches. Rebecca,

Marisa 

she was a party animal.

Christian 

She was a party animal. A lot of her walls seemed to have been taken down and she was a, this is a very different Rebecca from the one who did not want to do the exorcism.

Marisa 

But she's here for this. She's here. She's got her peach Cosmo ready?

Christian 

Yep. And some very enthusiastic celebratory arm pumping her. Whoo beard. And I think it was Higgins. I believe we're all pumping arms. Yes,

Marisa 

that sounds about right. Yeah. That's the vibe of the party people,

Brett Callan 

It makes me wonder where this sketch is happening with then the TED last Oh, timeline if it is because we've learned a thing or two about Rebecca in the season two trailer that we should talk about?

Christian 

Yeah. And admittedly, she did seem softer and a bit more open in the trailer. So I would say there's probably a consistency with what we saw. Even in the sketch,

Marisa 

she's probably getting some sex. I mean, like, she's more relaxed and enjoying life. And we learn that she's seeing someone she has a boyfriend.

Christian 

So we have this bit of ambiguity with Rebecca and her relationship status. We're not sure what's going on one place where there's no ambiguity for me anymore after seeing the sketch, and this preview teaser is that I am now convinced that season two is not going to be horrible.

Brett Callan 

Did you ever think it was gonna be horrible?

Christian 

Yeah, it wasn't. But it wasn't a them problem. That was a me problem. Like things that I really love. And I look forward to, I get just a little bit jittery about them. So this especially happens with me and like Star Wars stuff. I've lived and breathed and died Star Wars since I was a little kid. And so until I can see like, a preview to feel like things are on track. I just get really nervous that it's gonna disappoint. And so I think we started a TED last podcast, you guys like we're kind of drinking the kool aid on it. And so there was a part of me that was worried like, what if they can't recapture the magic, but we saw this. We know that when Jason Sudeikis sold the show to Apple, he did it as a three year arc, and everything was already planned out. And so that makes you think, if the first season was good, since they're not making it up as they go along, there's a really good chance the rest of it is going to be good. And I feel relieved.

Marisa 

That's a very normal thing. You know, we've talked about her on the show before, but Dr. Bernie brown talks about how we rehearse we dress rehearse tragedy. So things that are like really important or special to us, we like tend to, like, try to figure out well, our brain just like tells us like something bad's gonna happen, right? Something's gonna come in and ruin the way I feel about Ted lasso. But that's Yes. I totally get that. And I agree with you, Christian. We're just sometimes you just dress rehearse that tragedy.

Brett Callan 

Yeah. When you were saying that just now It reminded me of when she says, Joy is the most vulnerable emotion to feel. And who do we know that likes to give away joy for free?

Marisa 

Jenny Rojas and we see this moment where he just like, I don't know if he's having a bad dream or something. But he like wakes up in a rage or I don't know if he's happy. I don't know if he's joyful. But it doesn't look joyful. And it like made me like so upset. Like, if someone is pissing off Danny, like, I want to cut them, I want to cut them down. Because like, if anyone hurts Danny, I will seriously I, I will get them.

Christian 

So we're doing a bit of catastrophizing here, because we don't know where the tension is gonna come from this season. And one of the things that I struggle with or worry about is, it was one thing when the characters hurt each other, before they all really liked each other. And it was one thing when this set of characters like hurt each other before we liked them. But now that they've all kind of come together at the end of the first season, and a new villain, we need a new villain, and we didn't see there were no, there were no great villain candidates,

Brett Callan 

right? Because the one person who hasn't reformed really as much as the others is Jamie, but he is mysteriously absent from this trailer.

Marisa 

Well, is he or is he not Brett? Because we see at one point, someone puts down an American soldier on the bar next to Ted. And it looks an awful lot like the one that Ted gives to Jamie at the end of season one. So I believe that is Jamie putting down the soldier and saying, alright, I give up. Let's do some work.

Christian 

It's a good guess. The other person that we're kind of guessing about is Roy He's a little more central you can see some logical ways that he could be involved with like a coach or as a coach with the team. We don't know for sure like what's going on we do see him being well looks to be happy with Kelly, which is nice to see. And even though you would hope that that's not like a super conflicted thing, I would say the relationship still has some things that could work on.

Marisa 

Also, we see Sam with a guitar

Brett Callan 

and it's snowing.

Marisa 

It looks awfully Christmassy.

Brett Callan 

I am so excited for the holiday episode.

Marisa 

Right? How much do we love Christmas?

Brett Callan 

We love Christmas very much and especially Christmas music.

Marisa 

Yeah, one thing that we do not share in common with our friend in between us right here is the like the fact that we can do Christmas all year round. Christian is someone who's like wait till Thanksgiving is over y'all.

Christian 

Well, that's only because I actually love Jesus but so if they are singing songs in the title so Christmas special this year, What song do you hope that Sam is strumming on that guitar of his

Marisa 

it's got to be like a really cool version of All I want for Christmas is you right?

Brett Callan 

Well, what do we know about Sam's musical choices? Right? He sings the Oasis song. True in karaoke, so he likes British rock. So is Wham a British artist.

Marisa 

 Wham! is a British duo.

Brett Callan 

Maybe he's singing last Christmas, that famous Christmas song by wham, which is not one of my favorites. But I'm just trying to get into into Sam's head here.

Marisa 

I mean, musically, that might make sense. But let's hope with something else.

Christian 

Well, I'm going to remain agnostic about what songs I'm rooting for, until we get to Thanksgiving, but then I will give you guys an update. One thing that I am going to ruminate on, however, is that no matter what the conflict is, I have to feel like our new friend Sharon is going to be part of resolving the conflict by being the team psychologist and there does seem to be a little bit of conflict between her and Ted Lascaux because Sarah Niles who plays Sharon, she closes the door and Ted's moustached face at one point during this teaser trailer.

Brett Callan 

She sure does. And they play up the drama of that. Yeah,

Marisa 

I mean, are we supposed to think that she's part of the problem? She's stirring the pot? Right? I don't know. I feel I feel very uneasy. I really want to like her. But she also doesn't sugar.

Christian 

If she doesn't, it's it would be a hard culture to come into from the outside. The team is pretty much intact. They've been through a lot of things. They like each other. So I think there'd be some challenges there. I'll say for me in this character. We've mentioned in previous episodes that it does fill a gap, you know, having a black woman on cast that fills a hole that was there. The thing that I'm really excited about, it doesn't feel like a shallow diversity hire. When I look at Sarah Niles and I look at the projects that she has been involved with. Specifically, I may destroy you on HBO. And the fact that we also get Ashley Nicole black added to the writers room, who has been a writer on a lot of things. And most recently, the second season of black lady sketch show on HBO, they're bringing in people who have a track record of writing and portraying strong black women. And so I'm excited to see what they do with that character in this context.

Brett Callan 

Yeah, I like that. You point that out Christian. You know, we have this new character Sharon, kind of joining the group from the outside in, played by Sarah Niles. And then similarly in the writers room, we've added only one new writer and that's Ashley Nicole black. And she's kind of coming into this writers room of people who love each other and know each other obviously welcomed in to that creative group. But still, it's interesting that the dynamic that we're going to see on screen is also kind of reflected in the creative work that's happening behind the scenes.

Marisa 

We also don't see Rupert and we also don't see who this new guy is for Rebecca so lots of people are weighing in on who they want john wings night to be played by Do you all have any hopes or wishes or dreams about who her who her man friend might be?

Christian 

I have it on good authority, that it is terrible. So catfishing her?

Marisa 

No. He will never

Christian 

I don't know who it is. I just help him It's Idris Elba.

Brett Callan 

I feel like this would maybe be a great chance for a cameo from one Benedict Cumberbatch. And it seems like he would probably do a good job playing a person who is named john Wayne's night. And it would be funny if that happened, because there's this sort of in joke in the show with one of the characters last names being bumper catch, and there is, you know, an internet culture around that being a sort of amalgamation of the name Cumberbatch as in Benedict Cumberbatch. So,

Marisa 

I get that, Brett, that makes sense. I also like the idea of Richard Madden, who was the lead in you know, that Netflix Flint film, bodyguard. I think he's also on that one show where everyone dies.

Brett Callan 

Game of Thrones. Yes,

Marisa 

thank you. Right, he would be nice to look at.

Christian 

We like things that are nice to look at. We also like things that are nice to listen to.

Brett Callan 

And this teaser trailer does have a soundtrack. It does have a soundtrack. And on first listen, you just think oh, it's queen. It's We Will Rock You like classic sports anthem. This makes total sense. Like if you're gonna pick a song for a sports movie, or a sports show, this is probably in your top five. But then on the second and third rewatch of this trailer, I started thinking, I wonder if there's more to this. And so y'all, are you ready for me to tell you a story that might blow your minds a little bit?

Christian 

I am so ready, Brett.

Brett Callan 

I was born ready. The song We Will Rock You as ubiquitous at sporting events all over our country and I assume the United Kingdom. And one thing about this song is that it was released together as a single with We are the champions, which is another song that is often played in sports stadiums. And a lot of times these two songs on the radio when they came out, and even today, they're played together without any interruption. So we will rock you happens that amazing guitar solo loops, and then it goes right into the like the I paid my dues. You know, it does that that whole thing. And then so we have this whole journey of like, We Will Rock You, We are the champions. So to me, that's signaling Hey, maybe AFC Richmond are going to be the champions of the English championship this season. And then what that means for them moving up to the Premier League, perhaps, you know, so that's one thing I found interesting about the use of this song in the trailer. But if you follow me down the rabbit hole even further, there's even another layer to it. So the other thing that I found out about We Will Rock You and We are the champions recently is an interesting story about how and why they were written. After one particularly great show, everyone was clapping going wild. And then they came back out. They did their encore, everyone went wild again. And the band went backstage and the fans wouldn't leave. They just kind of stayed there wanting more. And eventually what happened is that all of the fans all the people who have been there to listen to the concert, began to sing a song back to Queen rather than continuing to clap or cheer or shout. They all started to sing. You'll never walk alone. The band were moved by that experience. And it inspired them to write these two songs which were designed to be sung along with, like a soccer chant. Now if you'll remember, you'll never walk alone is the song that plays at the end of season one episode 10 when AFC Richmond lose their match and we understand that they are going to be relegated to the English championship. soccer and football heads will know that you'll never walk alone is a very important song in English football for a number of reasons. And its use in the season finale of season one was really great and definitely pulls at your heartstrings. But I just find it so fascinating that the song that inspired the writing of We are the champions, and we will rock you was the song that happens just at the end of the previous season. So we're going from you'll never walk alone at the end of season one, two, we will rock you in the season two trailer which leads me to believe we are the champions is in AFC Richmond's future, y'all. Doesn't that just blow your mind a little bit? I this show is so good at these things. I love it. I absolutely love it. Again, mad props to the entire music team for Ted last Oh, this is just great stuff. 14 out of 10.

Marisa 

Christian, were there any like convincing soccer things that happened in this little teaser trailer.

Christian 

A little tidbit they mentioned that Richmond is going to have eight straight ties, which to us can sound like a failing streak but in the league that they're in the English championship. That's could be a really really good thing. The championship is bigger than the person Premier League, there are more teams. And so there are more games and they're packed in. And if you can pull off a string of draws or a string of ties, that can be the difference in you going down another league and staying where you're at, or going up a league, the other different walky thing is, whereas in the English Premier League, the bottom three teams, which Richmond was one, automatically go down in the championship, the top two teams automatically go up, and then teams 345 and six, they do a little playoff bracket to decide who the third team is that goes up. I will say, for a 12 episode arc, it does seem unlikely that if Richmond gets promoted, they get promoted through the English playoffs because I think that would take a lot of time, and would be fairly complicated to explain to everybody especially because the show has a lot of non soccer fans. So I don't think it'll come into play. But I do think that the eight straight ties was kind of a cool like fun little thing, and it's not as bad as it sounds.

Marisa 

It's amazing to just get like one tie straight. I always see like people's ties and I just wanna go watch it get like a different kind of tie,

Christian 

horrible joke that Ted lasso and beard would love. It was super fun to chat about all of these things to be excited about what is to come. Looking back one last glance, what were your guys's favorite quotes from the sketch or the trailer?

Marisa 

Mine's got to be rule number one, even though it's called Girl Talk. Sometimes it needs to be more like girl listen. And that's Ted talking to Rebecca and I love that their friendship has gotten to that level, or at least 10 things.

Brett Callan 

I think I liked in the trailer when Roy and Kelly are sitting in a car and they're watching Ted right on the back of a lawnmower and Kelly asked him What's he doing? and Roy says, probably homesick closest thing he can find to a Dodge Ram Heyo

Christian 

And much like Arby's, I too have the meats. I am going to go with the quote from the sketch. The competition tonight is tougher than ice cold beef jerky.

Marisa 

Hey, we made it. Thanks so much for listening to our first ever bonus episode. Again, something I don't understand. You can check out the show notes for links to all of the cool and interesting stuff we mentioned in this episode, if in fact we did.

Brett Callan 

And keep the conversation going on Twitter and Instagram. Our handle is at TED lasso pod. And we really love interacting with you all there and to hear all your insights and observations about the show. We would love to hear your theories about Season Two and what's going to happen so please share those with us who is john wings.

Christian 

This episode of Richmond till we die is brought to you by ginning kerosene productions who is produced by me Christian, me, Brett.

Marisa 

And me Marisa

Christian 

Brett also edited mixed in compose the music for this episode. If you enjoyed this conversation, please take a moment to give Richmond till we die a five star rating on whatever app you're using to listen to this episode. But know that it is most helpful if you do that in Apple podcasts. Okay, I'm Christian signing off for Marissa and Brett. Thanks for listening. Until next time, cheers y'all.